Comments on: Creaming off the circumcisions? http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/2008/06/07/creaming-off-the-circumcisions/ Of sex and science. Elizabeth Pisani's blog about HIV and other sundry things. Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:54:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hugh7 http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/2008/06/07/creaming-off-the-circumcisions/comment-page-1/#comment-925 Hugh7 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:10:16 +0000 http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/?p=389#comment-925 Short and co aren't suggesting oestrogen instead of circumcision, but as well as. They claim (with no evidence) that both together could provide a complete barrier to HIV. "We have a suspicion that the reason may be that most circumcision techniques don't actually remove all the foreskin, all the inner foreskin. So there's still some there for the virus to enter. "And we could use this oestrogen cream, even in uncircumcised men, and we would hope that that might increase the protection from 60 per cent to up to nearer 100 per cent." (But the South African and Kenyan RCTs were by the forceps-guided method that removes less skin than the sleeve method used in Uganda - all three produced the same "protection".) It was also Short who made the first claim, based on foreskins cut off the bodies of old men, that Langerhans cells in the foreskin reach out and clasp HIV to their bosoms - or something equally colourful. Short and co aren’t suggesting oestrogen instead of circumcision, but as well as. They claim (with no evidence) that both together could provide a complete barrier to HIV.

“We have a suspicion that the reason may be that most circumcision techniques don’t actually remove all the foreskin, all the inner foreskin. So there’s still some there for the virus to enter.

“And we could use this oestrogen cream, even in uncircumcised men, and we would hope that that might increase the protection from 60 per cent to up to nearer 100 per cent.” (But the South African and Kenyan RCTs were by the forceps-guided method that removes less skin than the sleeve method used in Uganda – all three produced the same “protection”.)

It was also Short who made the first claim, based on foreskins cut off the bodies of old men, that Langerhans cells in the foreskin reach out and clasp HIV to their bosoms – or something equally colourful.

]]> By: Lee Rudolph http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/2008/06/07/creaming-off-the-circumcisions/comment-page-1/#comment-909 Lee Rudolph Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:53:49 +0000 http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/?p=389#comment-909 "But they did measure a 'highly significant increase in the number of desquamated, keratinised epithelian cells'. Any volunteers, lads?" Yeah, boys, don't be squamish. “But they did measure a ‘highly significant increase in the number of desquamated, keratinised epithelian cells’.
Any volunteers, lads?”

Yeah, boys, don’t be squamish.

]]> By: Tew Short http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/2008/06/07/creaming-off-the-circumcisions/comment-page-1/#comment-907 Tew Short Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:53:24 +0000 http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/?p=389#comment-907 Have you been to Dilli in East Timor lately? There are lots of busy brothels staffed by women from around Asia serving UN staff and Timorese men ... But isn't one of these Australian researchers Roger Short? The Lemon Juice Doctor? He and Mechai Viravaidya of Thailand have already had one spectacular failure - lemon juice as a vaginal microbicide. Have you been to Dilli in East Timor lately? There are lots of busy brothels staffed by women from around Asia serving UN staff and Timorese men …

But isn’t one of these Australian researchers Roger Short? The Lemon Juice Doctor? He and Mechai Viravaidya of Thailand have already had one spectacular failure – lemon juice as a vaginal microbicide.

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