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	<title>Comments on: Spitzer: cementing a cross-party tradition of hypocrisy</title>
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		<title>By: Lee Rudolph</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdomofwhores.com/2008/03/11/spitzers-prostitution-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Rudolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anton writes, &quot;I wonder if his wife and children &#039;...give a toss.&#039;&quot;

Though presented (I suspect) as a rhetorical question (okay, a rhetorical &quot;wonder&quot;, there being no question mark), if taken seriously it&#039;s an empirical question.  Some similarly situated spouses doubtless do, others doubtless don&#039;t, and the distribution of those (and all the intermediate) degrees of toss-giving among the population (or, better, among the various populations) is something at least somewhat susceptible to scientific study.  A similar situation no doubt obtains for similarly situated daughters (and sons, etc., etc.).  

Absent such studies (actually, I have read some, but don&#039;t have them at hand, couldn&#039;t vouch for them if I did, and don&#039;t want to risk misstating their conclusions; interested readers can find them, and pointers to others, in Kluwer&#039;s Archives of Sexual Behavior, among other recent sources, if they are--probably rightly--too fastidious to handle Kinsey&#039;s work without layers of latex), there is little or no value in Anton&#039;s expressed &quot;doubt&quot; about the number of people who &quot;live in&quot; such a world as he ascribes to Elizabeth Pisani.  And there is almost certainly little accurate information about peoples&#039; sexual behavior (even the behavior of &quot;the people&quot; Anton &quot;know&quot;s) that can be learned directly from the same peoples&#039; speech behavior (including their &quot;decry&quot;ing of &quot;the death of right and wrong&quot;).

For instance, today&#039;s US news brings us the tit-bit that &quot;At least one in four teenage girls nationwide has a sexually transmitted disease, or more than 3 million teens, according to the first study of its kind in this age group&quot; (an AP wire story).  Here &quot;teenage&quot; means 13 to 19, inclusive.  What do you make of that, Anton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anton writes, &#8220;I wonder if his wife and children &#8216;&#8230;give a toss.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Though presented (I suspect) as a rhetorical question (okay, a rhetorical &#8220;wonder&#8221;, there being no question mark), if taken seriously it&#8217;s an empirical question.  Some similarly situated spouses doubtless do, others doubtless don&#8217;t, and the distribution of those (and all the intermediate) degrees of toss-giving among the population (or, better, among the various populations) is something at least somewhat susceptible to scientific study.  A similar situation no doubt obtains for similarly situated daughters (and sons, etc., etc.).  </p>
<p>Absent such studies (actually, I have read some, but don&#8217;t have them at hand, couldn&#8217;t vouch for them if I did, and don&#8217;t want to risk misstating their conclusions; interested readers can find them, and pointers to others, in Kluwer&#8217;s Archives of Sexual Behavior, among other recent sources, if they are&#8211;probably rightly&#8211;too fastidious to handle Kinsey&#8217;s work without layers of latex), there is little or no value in Anton&#8217;s expressed &#8220;doubt&#8221; about the number of people who &#8220;live in&#8221; such a world as he ascribes to Elizabeth Pisani.  And there is almost certainly little accurate information about peoples&#8217; sexual behavior (even the behavior of &#8220;the people&#8221; Anton &#8220;know&#8221;s) that can be learned directly from the same peoples&#8217; speech behavior (including their &#8220;decry&#8221;ing of &#8220;the death of right and wrong&#8221;).</p>
<p>For instance, today&#8217;s US news brings us the tit-bit that &#8220;At least one in four teenage girls nationwide has a sexually transmitted disease, or more than 3 million teens, according to the first study of its kind in this age group&#8221; (an AP wire story).  Here &#8220;teenage&#8221; means 13 to 19, inclusive.  What do you make of that, Anton?</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t give a toss if politicians want to buy sex as long as the treat the person who wants to sell it decently and pay them well...&quot;

I wonder if his wife and children &quot;...give a toss.&quot; And if they do, I wonder if we should care.

I doubt as many people as you claim live in the morals-free, responsibility-free world that you live in Elizabeth. Indeed, the people I know decry the death of right and wrong that you seem so glib about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t give a toss if politicians want to buy sex as long as the treat the person who wants to sell it decently and pay them well&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder if his wife and children &#8220;&#8230;give a toss.&#8221; And if they do, I wonder if we should care.</p>
<p>I doubt as many people as you claim live in the morals-free, responsibility-free world that you live in Elizabeth. Indeed, the people I know decry the death of right and wrong that you seem so glib about.</p>
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